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Aztlan
13.04.2004, 17:10
Like the question says, every time a new card gets introduced i get an interest to see which card will perform the best and what new things will they bring to the market

Today Nvidia will introduced the NV40 Chip
have no clue when ATI Will introduced theirs
how about you

Expects Blaer With the Putter Complain lol

blaer
13.04.2004, 18:28
well as im hopefully soon going to buy a new pc, im interested to know whats good at the moment. i never check new stuff if i dont buy, simply cos its 2 frustrating with the prices here.
i still tend to nvidia, doh my friends 9800 looks very nice :)

Aztlan
13.04.2004, 18:33
well as im hopefully soon going to buy a new pc, im interested to know whats good at the moment. i never check new stuff if i dont buy, simply cos its 2 frustrating with the prices here.
i still tend to nvidia, doh my friends 9800 looks very nice :)

Congradulations man, So have you made up a lists of things to buy

man, I am going to miss the putter complain :cry:

blaer
13.04.2004, 18:47
yeah i got a mask :lol: :muahaha: :see-saw: :rofl:

but havent done a list for the pc yet.. i move in 3 days yuck. im kinda swamped as u can imagine. taking a break from paking right now :)

Eddy_Tempster
13.04.2004, 20:26
Argh moving is a beeatch...
I don't realy pay attention to computer hardware anymore...I got my xbox, so I don't really have a need to play computer games...although I want to buy Counter Strike - Condition Zero....
If I was on the market for a gfx card, I would go 9800 pro, or some nice nvidia that's no more than $200 cdn

Aztlan
13.04.2004, 20:39
$200 CND?
Thats like 100USd isnt it
so you cant afford the 9800 pro
too bad

And yep, Moving is a pain in the you know what. An event that i dont want to go through again

have you though of which processor to go with blaer?
If i were you i will go with an AMD Athlon 64, those are the fastest Processors,

if you plan to go with an intel processor, pick a northwood, dont buy a prestcott because those run hot and perform poorly

Eddy_Tempster
13.04.2004, 20:42
rofl 200$ cdn is 150$ american
:lol:

I thin the 9800 is 189$ here...Although I have no clue on how to install it...maybe just get futureshop to install it

Aztlan
13.04.2004, 20:47
Omg , You dont know how to install it?
You are an Uber Noob hehe

Eddy_Tempster
13.04.2004, 21:18
Yes I am an uber n00b...Im assuming just taking the box off and ripping out the old, and pushing in the new :lol:...

blaer
13.04.2004, 21:44
well i dont like toasters, so no amd :P

p4.. it has to be :lol:

i thought the prescott was faster then the northwood :?

3gig cpu.. or whatever i get :D

256mb gfx would be nice

1gig rd ram

asus board

guess thats it

Aztlan
13.04.2004, 21:50
well i dont like toasters, so no amd :P



You are totally Wrong there
Amd Athlon 64's Run cooler than the P4

just read reviews out there and benchmarks speak for themselves

http://www.hardocp.com/reviews.html?cat=MQ==

and yes the Prestcott Runs slower than a North Wood

blaer
13.04.2004, 22:39
i only belive what i see :)
i dont like benchmarks at all and ive never
seen a good test anyway. reviews bah hehe

i dont want amd, cos i never had one. my p3
served me very well so why chaning. yes they
are a lil more expensive, so what if they are
better anyway :P
and what good is the amd64 if there is no os that
supports it. i would never buy an amd just cos the
feckers use those stupid cpu description. i mean
wtf is wrong to put the actual frequency into the name?
it makes it so much simpler. i got no clue what a
xp2200 is and how fast it runs, they only did this
to confuse people and generally to make their cpus
look (or sound) faster then they are.

and about which p4.. well i dont live in the states and
i have to say that i probably only can get one and not
choose. i can be happy if i dont have to wait for one :cry:
plus i pay double what u would.. but anyway, it doesnt
really matter which one i get. its still gonna be a major
boost from my current system :lol:

The_Borg
13.04.2004, 22:54
man, I am going to miss the putter complain :cry:

You'll not for sure, because he will start to complain about the new maschine immediately (j/k) :lol: .

For the CPU I agree, I've a P4 3.0 GHz HT now and it's simply great - fast and reliable, what do you want more.

For the graphic card I prefer ATI and if the next gen cards will be released I'll buy an ATI, because my 9700 pro is fast, reliable, doesn't makes any kind of problems and all game and I've a lot of games are running without any significant problems. So want do you want more, forget about these loud nVidia crap ;) or do you like vacuum cleaners :lol: .

blaer
13.04.2004, 23:06
damn the borg knows me well :lol:

u see, i made the same experience with nvidia as u have with ati.
the gfx card i got right now is fast, reliable and i never had any
probs with it nor with my previous geforce 2 pro.
so id go for nvidia again. the only thing im not sure about is that
lots of people say the new ones sux. are they really that much
louder then the gf4?
doh with my case (11 fans) i dont really care :lol:

The_Borg
13.04.2004, 23:12
You will not notice your 11 fans anymore, the sound of some of the new GeForce cards is really annoying, believe me they are really loud... really. Only some of the latest models, one is called 5950 if I remember right (hopefully) are better, don't ask me for the exact name. But you only have to check some tests and you'll know.

Aztlan
14.04.2004, 00:21
Blaer, you are a guy that is afraid of the unkown. Meaning coward hehe

One doesnt have to follow one thing, thats why they are options in these world.
is your decision, The athlon 64 is the fastest one, even with software that has been optimized for it,
as for me, my future upgrade will be a athlon 64
just need to buy mother board/ CPU and some ram which will total to about 500 USD, SOB :evil: Ha

blaer
14.04.2004, 06:11
oh man, stop talking bout stuff u just dont know ok :roll:

first off.. i pitty people that run and buy what a test or benchmark result tells them. if u dont take ur own experience into consideration when buying a new component then ur just dumb, sorry.

and to round this up. i wont even get the cpu for 500 bucks :evil:

ducati996
14.04.2004, 12:14
Go on blaer... give it to him...

I agree... just 'cause something is new, don't mean it's any good yet... And by the time the world is ready to cope with 64-bit tech I am pretty sure that Intel will have their own product ready for it...

I am now running a AMD 1000 Mhz, 256 MB RAM and a Geforce2GTS Pro... Vice City is running on that, but it has problems now and again... In general it was not so bad, but I personnally tend to go back to Intel myself, especially because of the Front Side Bus Speed and also because Intel now offer 1 MB Cache...

I just registered for this forum... I am following you around a bit... maybe you remember... We spoke about bb2 cars recently on gtaforums...

I now have your Buick GSX in game and I like it a lot... One thing I was wondering though... You wrote on gtaforums in your Gator topic, that you are about to retire from the gta-modding scene, is that true...? :cry:

blaer
14.04.2004, 12:36
lol yeah i remember :)
welcome to the forum :wave:

well im not gonna put anymore cars
into vice unless for some odd reason
i get attracted to vice again, doh i
doubt it. i want to keep on modeling doh
and if san andreas hits the stores and
its possible to mod, im pretty sure
ill get some new stuff out. who knows
and its gonna take a while till then
anyway. (now lets all hope spc is dead
by then :lol: )

so back on topic..

yeah i agree, amd sucks at fsb. intel had the 1024 (rambus)
a long time ago and amd still isnt further then 400 i think lol
also if u buy a p4 u get a fan with it that has enough power
to keep it cool enough to run perfect. i dont know if its still
so foolish, but i remember all friends buy amds and then
try out 2 or 3 fans till they found one that suited them and
the cpu.

oh and i made a lot of tests comparing my friends amd 1000/133 cpu
to my p3 700/100. we had the same amount of ram, same and i mean
exact same gfx card.
now apart from his daily crashs, mine was actually a bit faster and wasnt a toaster. seriously, if u run an amd, u can switch of the heat. my p3 runs at 26° and his was always around 60° lmao
he had to install 3 seperat fans just to get the temp down enough so the fecker wouldnt hang once a day.

edit: ehh @ducati.. dini email adresse chunt mir bekannt vor :muahaha:

Anonymous
14.04.2004, 16:30
hold on, wait a minute... :?: :!:

1. (now lets all hope spc is dead
by then )


what are you saying... talking about spc.gta.com.ua or what?

2. I agree with you totally on the hardware discussion...

3. Who the hell... :D wottsch mer öppe säge, dass du mi kennsch oder was...?!... so geil... wär bisch Du...? hesch mi comment zu dire Homepage ou scho gläse....? 8)

ToMmY
14.04.2004, 16:45
my amd 2200+ run at 45 degrees doin nothing
while play game and stuff i can get it up to 60 degrees :lol: :lol:

ooo and iam running a copper core heatsink with artic sliver and a big ass fan on top off that, then i have 5 fan, 2 at the back of teh comp 2 and the front and one near the hd plus the psu fans :cry: :cry: :cry:


all of that just for a 1.8ghz pos :roll: :roll:

blaer
14.04.2004, 16:52
@duci.. nei, kenn di nöd lol, aber s'.ch gseht mer nöd oft :lol:

and yep spc are the stealing twats of this community :evil:
i hope u dont like the crap they produce :x

ducati996
14.04.2004, 17:28
no way... so you from zürich or what...? 8)

is x-boost.com actually made by a swiss man... cool... :wink: didn't think there where any that good out there...

and yep, I am quite new to the GTA scene on PC... I just go where I can, looking for good cars... and I happened to find out about gta.com.ua and all its affiliates...

It's the russian mafia behind that or what...? :lol: I read in other posts, that ruslev is always stealing parts from other modelers. but the models on spc.gta.com.ua looked pretty innovative to me... I found vehicles there that I never saw anywhere else... so how come they steal it... from whom...??? Is it really true... :oops: didn't know about that...

If you tell me where else I can find their stuff in original, then I would be glad to know... but so far the cars I got from that page all look like they only exist on that website...???

blaer
14.04.2004, 17:41
sorry, but i dont even talk to people who download and support their rape!

pumbars and spit811 are the main reason i didnt release a lot of stuff
and they cant make a single polygon. tahts a fact, everything is stolen and nechtosmertelfuck is the same kinda bastard when we're on the subject.

sorry if this is rude, but ive been over this so many times. i think i set up a website about spc lmao.
they stole from me.. i saw modified pics of almost all my cars. they released a bunch without permission. nechtofecker stole lots from me aswell and is still claiming to be the author of several cars he didnt do diggly squad to. like his f-350 bigfoot features my toyota celica interior, go figure. "his" sand buggy was made by motoXL aswell as the f-150. ull find the url from the original author in the .txd :?

spc steal from carface/bigfoot, from sin5k4 and many many others, but most moders dont go through the trouble to flame the living bits outta them. i did and all i got in return was people that called me nuts for doing so, but hell i made the stuff and i hate to see people claim work they didnt do. thats why i decided to not release anymore cars for gta. that was quiet a while ago. i still did release the wheelpack, the 2 map mods and the gator xl since that is a car everybody would recall in a sec, cos its my own design.

[/rant]

now please get back ontopic
u can always open a new thread if
u wanna go deeper into something
else..
oh und nei i bin kein zürcher. s'git au no anders i de schwiz als züri.. :roll:

Aztlan
14.04.2004, 17:52
oh man, stop talking bout stuff u just dont know ok :roll:

first off.. i pitty people that run and buy what a test or benchmark result tells them. if u dont take ur own experience into consideration when buying a new component then ur just dumb, sorry.

and to round this up. i wont even get the cpu for 500 bucks :evil:

No sense oh humor heh, or the moving thing got in to you :roll:

The SOB part wast for you if you think it was,

anyway, Obviously you did something wrong in your test comparing your putter to the one your friends has, did you consider the mother board chipset fo the matter,

I know what i am talking about, i have tried both amd and intel,
I had a 1.2 ghz Tbird processor that held its own againts a 1.8 ghz northwood processor
and also what kind of processor was it, you just say amd 1000/133 cpu
remember that there was a crippled cpu called the duron :roll:

blaer, you abviously havent read online reviews, like the ones at anandtech , hardocp or tomshardware.com
Those benchmarks speak the truth in terms of real game performance, i have tested that myself, you have right now a what nvidia ti 4200, i have a ti 4400 in my sister's pc, and i can see a real difference in performance in games between that chip and a the radeon 9800 pro, fact that online benchmarks expressed when they compare those cards,

I am talking from experinece in hardware, i have tried both over time, and i have chosen which one is best. currently i have an amd 2400+ athlon xp, i compared it to an intel 2.4C and they are the same in terms of performance, in some cases the amd one is a little faster. thats why i gave the intel one to my brother

@ tommy, there is obviously something wrong with your system, i have an athlon Xp 2400+ and temperature is 28 degrees C and under load is aroung 35-40 degrees C

it has a copper heatsink and artic silver 2, i havent replaced it with artic silver 5

and the cpu doesnt costs 500 bucks blaer, it costs 280 usd, and thats for an Athlon 64 3200+

you guys are bithching about the rating, you have not experience things like me, and i believe in the rating system AMD implemented, just by looking at game performance between systems tested

Just so you know Intel is considering a rating system, after their presthot released :roll:

@ ducati996, welcome to the forum, but please just dont dont suck up to blaer

i am not in a good while writting this

on topic, Nvidia just released the new video card, and performance look great, but i am going to hold my opinion until ati released its card

blaer
14.04.2004, 18:06
@az.. i cant bring myself to read all through that - sorry!

if u like amd so much, fine by me. go marry one :baeh:

i dont want one, i dont like them. i probably know enough
about pc's to know what im talking about m8e, so dont go
assuming just cos u might think different.

of course there are 2 different mobos, amd's dont run on
pentium chipsets. my sys was faster and most of all
10 times more stable.
i had well still have an asus p3bf mobo that runs with a 7 multiplier and a 100 fsb. btw. that asus isnt sposed to do that, it only supports multiplier up to 6x and it runs on 7x since october 1999. thats what i call quality. he had a brand new via chipset mobo back then, that sucked compare to a 1 year old asus board.. nough said.

edit:

blaer, you abviously havent read online reviews, like the ones at anandtech , hardocp or tomshardware.com


no man, i havent. i already said i dont give a flying bleep what anyone says. i do my own research when it comes to that. i belive what i see, nothing else because there is no business that gets more hoax and people that just say something to look smart then the pc one. again, im a bit older then u and got more experience, probably made more bad experience then u but lets just say if u read ur reviews and buy the stuff they tell u.. how would u ever know if ur right? :wink:

edit2: read further.. wtf lol prices look like this here..

AMD Athlon 64 FX51
2200MHz, 1MB, S 940, 400 MHz,... 1'171.75

103180 AMD Athlon 64 FX53
2400MHz, 1MB, S 940, 400 MHz,... 1'171.75

and i want this one..
Pentium 4, 3400MHz Extreme Edition, 2MB, 478-Pin, 800MHz FSB, HyperThreading, mit Cooler 1'345.00

those are swiss franks.
maybe u shouldnt tell me what the prices are in my country dude.
u've never been here. dont even know if u could spot it on a map :lol:
ive lived in cali as u know. i know the prices over there are drastic
cheaper then here.. maybe now u belive me.

and
@ ducati996, welcome to the forum, but please just dont dont suck up to blaer

he actually doesnt. he agrees to me which u cant seem to bare :lol:

The_Borg
14.04.2004, 21:51
He Blaer and Aztlan are you want me to read all this, AMD and Intel, Intel and AMD, I'm getting dizzy.

You both have much knowledge for sure, but even more sure is that you both have absolutely fixed opinions.

So can't both of you see - that there is no way to convince the opposite ;) , it seems to be easier to move rocks as this :lol: .

So lets stop this neverending AMD and Intel discussion, it's the same like nVidia and ATI discussion, you can dicuss about it until the end of time. Thousands before you have done this discussions and all have failed. Or do you think you can melt rocks, or let the earth turn to the other side, or making me going over the water... (sounds good keep on going j/k :roll: )


Btw @ducati996 : Welcome to my forum, enjoy your stay :) .

ducati996
14.04.2004, 22:49
I think in the short time I have been here, I have already managed to cause quite some disturbance...

@blaer... sorry really... :shock: ... I didn't want to upset you. I admire guys like you... so please, accept my apology... :oops:

I thank everyone for welcoming me to your forum... hope I can still stay, after having brought up the dirty subject... anyway... let's hope those modstealers will be brought to justice one day...

I wish all of you good night. Don't be angry, and blaer, hope you have everything ready for your moving day, and it just sounded like züridütsch, but no worries... you now bern people are slow...

edit: by the way... what is happening to the borg pages... I seem to have problems getting onto certain bits... hope it's not the russians...

The_Borg
14.04.2004, 22:59
Nope, check out here for more info about it (http://www.theborggaming.planet-multiplayer.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=581).

blaer
14.04.2004, 23:19
:lol: :lol: :lol:
didnt realize how much's written on this page :D

well 2 days to move.. so i really have other things on
my mind, or at least i should have hehe.

ToMmY
15.04.2004, 10:55
god damm u ppl go on :P :P :lol: :lol:

with the 2200+ there was a A model and B model (if i remember right ) on rean hotter than the other and somthing like that dont the details so long ago i got the comp

and i think ur right Aztlan but it not my comp teh vcool i installed it wrong and the sys tem and the cpu tem was mixed up :lol: :lol: but its fix now i relized as soon as i posted it :oops: :oops: but its running a 23 degrees atm with the system temp at 50 degree :) ummm

blaer
15.04.2004, 12:10
eh looks like nvidia going for the top again :lol:

Preview: NVidia's GeForce 6800 Ultra (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,1566805,00.asp)

Eddy_Tempster
15.04.2004, 14:55
Wow, that was a lot of reading..
blaer buy what you want..lol...simple as that..

Our radeon 9800 pro's jsut dropped 50$ in prioce to $199.99...Hmmmm :o

Aztlan
15.04.2004, 17:02
Well this thread turn into a debate between products and opinions, thing that i promised not to get into at hardforums, i'll do the same here
and yep, anyone can buy what they want, but is just pointless not to try other products, One has to test the waters again, not because of some bad experience you are not going to try the company again. I had good expereinces with both companies, i just went with what i feel is best

back on topic

there are pictures of the Asus 6800 Ultra

Damn these things have giant coolers,

http://www.gzeasy.com/itnewsdetail.asp?nID=14997

I got a feeling that ati will have some very good, since they have keep it in secret

Edit: and about the not being in a good mood thing, is was not related to this thread, is with one of my classes where i need to to a presentation

blaer
15.04.2004, 17:06
hehe.. *wondering how that giant fan sounds*

i like the design of this card.. looks futureistic (sp)

prolly the price's gonna kill me doh :cry:

do u know of an actual shipping date for them?

Aztlan
15.04.2004, 17:10
The price for those cards will bee 500 USD

and they will be available here in the states at the end of april or beginning of June
not sure the rest of the world

Lol i just noticed i have 500 posts
the irony

blaer
15.04.2004, 17:20
aye.. that means they will be here around a 1000 bucks :cry:
and it also means i wont get one hehe
want the new pc earlier then that :lol:

Aztlan
15.04.2004, 18:06
off topic

do you plan on getting a dvd writer

I myself waiting for this one since it will be dual layer, more data can be burn on dvd discs
and it will be my first dvd writer

http://www.plextor.com/english/products/712SA.htm


as for the soundcard, i just bought an Audigy 2 ZS, and i noticed a great improvement in sound quality compare to the onboard soundstorm that came with the Asus Deluxe A7N8X

blaer
15.04.2004, 18:33
nah, i dont want a dvd writer :lol:

Aztlan
15.04.2004, 19:00
God Damn :shock:
Look at the size of this cooler, is a leadtek geforce 6800

Edit
sscroll down the page to find it

http://www.digit-life.com/news.html

blaer
15.04.2004, 19:12
do u mean this one?
http://www.ixbt.com/short/2k4-04/a400-2.jpg

i really dig this one :D
http://www.ixbt.com/short/2k4-04/V9999.jpg

Aztlan
15.04.2004, 20:34
lol, the asus one looks appealing

i mean the first one, it looks enormous

The_Borg
15.04.2004, 22:41
What for a monsters :yikes: ...

... the blue one is looking cool. And about ATI and nVidia, I'm sure nVidia had learned what they've done wrong (hopefully) and so we will get two new awesome graphic card lines. For now I tend to ATI, but times goes by... so lets see :) .

Aztlan
17.04.2004, 00:21
This thing is just a ugly :?

http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=news_sparkle682.jpg

Gogo
17.04.2004, 04:24
About the new graphic cards, I always read as much as I can about them.
I ordered a Radeon9800pro 128MB, its cheap here in Greece and has enough power to play all games in High-Res with AA and blablabla :D
Imo ATI is a guarantee, NVidia is a self-destructer.

About processors, Im gonna buy a Athlon64 @ 3200, not that I think that they are better than Intel, but Imo I like AMD and they are much cheaper here in Greece.

We reached a era where the processors have TOO MUCH power, and cmon, to be honest, imo, is there a difference between AMD & Intel.
I dont think so. 3GHz is enough for the next 2 years imo.

Aztlan
18.04.2004, 02:02
Well with the latest release from nvidia, i have to say they gotten their act together

Everybody is conceeding that the 6800 ultra is the best (will have to wait until ati releases theirs) performance is double, is quiet

although i am for ATi,
this time around i have a feeling that they will not pull it off,
just look are the releases of the 9700 pro, 9800 pro and xt versions

the performance difference between those cards is very close, there is no point in buying a 9800 XT over a 9800 pro or a 9700 pro

we have to give nvidia Kudos because this time they have delivered

i am probably going to jump ship to nvidia's
the IQ is better also
but i am just going to wait until ati releases theirs in order make a decision

Aztlan
18.04.2004, 07:06
nevermind about getting the next generation video card

i think is a must and is a better idea to get a good quality monitor first

well i have this crappy monitor

http://www.samtron.com/product/76v_fea.html

ha

and will upgrade it with this one

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=24-002-046&depa=0

how about that
it is a whole lot better than a video card, besides i have this excellent 9800 pro

Gogo
18.04.2004, 18:55
aztlan, why not buying a 17inches TFT or 19inches CRT?
your selection is not bad, but why not a 19inches if you dont prefer the TFT yet?

Aztlan
18.04.2004, 19:09
TFT stand for flat panel?

if so , i dont want flat panel, i cannot affor them, and i got use to crt's

also i dont want a 19" because they are too big for me , i got used to 17"
thats my sweet spot

The_Borg
18.04.2004, 19:44
Have I read 19" TFT, have I :roll: ...

...ok, here's mine :) :

http://www.theborggaming.planet-multiplayer.de/Temp_Pictures/SDMHX53B.jpg

Sony HX-Series 19" (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=rQnS_7HnszzSvvFlEFfY9P7p5pPkk9ujjE0=?Cat egoryName=cpu_Displays_FlatPanelLCDs_18%22&ProductSKU=SDMHX93%2fB&Dept=cpu)

Aztlan
18.04.2004, 19:54
Have I read 19" TFT, have I :roll: ...

...ok, here's mine :) :

http://www.theborggaming.planet-multiplayer.de/Temp_Pictures/SDMHX53B.jpg

Sony HX-Series 19" (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=rQnS_7HnszzSvvFlEFfY9P7p5pPkk9ujjE0=?Cat egoryName=cpu_Displays_FlatPanelLCDs_18%22&ProductSKU=SDMHX93%2fB&Dept=cpu)

Aztlan faints after looking at price

Thud sound heard in the distance

there is now way i can afford that :cry:
i am a university student with budget limits, thats why i can afford the crt's

The_Borg
18.04.2004, 20:00
The price in Germany isn't that high, I've payed 899 Euros only :P *LOL*.

And I had a CRT since end of last year and it was ok. So better never have a close look at such a TFT or you'll never ever have a CRT again :D .

Aztlan
18.04.2004, 20:30
only 899 euros :?

that costs and arm and a leg, what is your salary?

anyway, i am happy with crt monitor, cant wait to order the one i post

The_Borg
18.04.2004, 21:57
Only was just a joke, I know that it's much money. And surely you'll be happy with your CRT, like everyone of us with every new piece of hardware ;) . Hopefully in a year or two TFTs will have the same price as CRTs hopefully, for now they are still to expensive.

Aztlan
18.04.2004, 22:12
I knew it was a joke
i am just saying that thats alot of cash to burn for just a monitor

if i had that money i will have spend it in a powerfull system, like an athlon 64, and more ram

the monitor that i plan to buy, in my view is excellent for my needs
just look at the reviews in the site posted

the thing that draws me more to the monitor are the resolutions and refresh rates
720 x 400 @ 70 to 160 Hz
640 x 480 @ 60 to 160 Hz
800 x 600 @ 50 to 146 Hz
832 x 624 @ 50 to 141 Hz
1024 x 768 @ 50 to 116 Hz
1152 x 870 @ 50 to 103 Hz
1280 x 1024 @ 50 to 89 Hz
1600 x 1200 @ 50 to 76 Hz

things that my current monitor doesnt even come close to
also NEC is an excellent company like Sony

but in your view, was that monitor worth all that cash for it?

In my view, i think thats a waste of money for a monitor

The_Borg
18.04.2004, 22:33
I've to disagree, this TFT was worth every Cent. It's one of my best pieces of hardware I've bought so far. I had some very good CRTs before, but none of them were only close to what this TFT is. Like told before, if you have seen it, you'll never buy a CRT again. The picture is more than sharp, the contrast and brilliance of the colors are awesome. Beside this the 19" are meant visible and the design of the TFT is great as well, I'll never go back to a CRT again. But with most of the TFTs you have to be cautious, because they aren't made for gaming (most of them will tell you, but the aren't). Only Sony and some very new and expensive ones from other brands are able to display the images fast enough.

Gogo
18.04.2004, 22:36
I cant afford a TFT, too. :cry:
If I had the money, Id buy a 19TFT without thinking twice, like Borg.
Damn you Borg :P :lol:
Your TFT is hot.
But heh, the TFT monitors in Germany are h3ll cheap, in contrast with the prices in Greece. :(

Aztlan, the monitor you want to buy is a good choice :wink:

Aztlan
18.04.2004, 22:57
@ The borg, Fair enough, each to his own opinion, but if you were on my situation, you will understand my view that even if they have good picture, is still to much money for a freaking monitor
i my self have seen them in action, and still think is just a waste of money on a piece of material.


the cheap one that i currently have, has serve me well even with farcry
and has lasted for close to 3 years

like said, even if i had the cash to buy such things, i will spend it somewhere else, like improving my car, which i use alot

anyway

this site has pictures of various manufactures with the 6800 ultra core
i still like the ASUS alot

the sparkle looks ugly, yuck


http://www.pcunleash.com/bbs/zboard.php?id=PerformanceBenchmark&page=1&sn1=&divpage=1&sn=off&ss=on&sc=on&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=228

The_Borg
18.04.2004, 23:08
Yep in contrast to the ASUS really ugly.

And I surely will not change your point of view, it's only my opinion. For me it was worth the money absolutely, but this is me... only me ;) .

Gogo
18.04.2004, 23:12
damn the geforce6800 looks great and the specs are "alien" to me. 1 GHz ram? omg. I like the one from Albatron.
but heh, with this cost i cant even dream about to touch a 6800.
im happy with my 9800pro Ill have in 2 days finally, yippiee *lol*
and I get this card with the 1/3 of the price of the geforce6800, imo thats very ironic :P :)

The_Borg
18.04.2004, 23:15
Two days sounds good :) . And yep I surely will wait a while before I get my hands on one of these next gen graphic cards. Earliest autumn, maybe winter, lets see.

Gogo
18.04.2004, 23:19
I think for now, a Radeon9800pro is more than enough. :)
Surely, later Ill need a new graph card, but this will be next summer or winter :P
We have to be happy with our Radeons, Borg. :wink:

The_Borg
18.04.2004, 23:22
Sure I'm, I can't imagine that Far Cry can look better with this ASUS monster as with our Radeons :) .

Gogo
18.04.2004, 23:28
Hehe :wink: I totally agree.

HappyKamper
19.04.2004, 07:20
I cant wait for the new cards either. Not because I'm wanting to get my hands on one, but because it should make the Raedon XT range well within my means. :) The ol' GeForce 2 just doesn't really cut it anymore :roll: